There’s a blog post I’ve been
putting off for a while now that I just can’t anymore. I kept putting it off
because honestly, it’s silly, but I feel it’s my duty at this point to finally
avoid it no longer. I MUST do it. I must defend Lori Grimes.
What’s that you say? It’s
stupid because she’s a fictional character in The Walking Dead? You’re right,
of course it’s stupid that I feel the need to do this. But then again, most
things I feel the need to share my thoughts about are stupid.
Before you read on, I must warn you, there will be
spoilers for all seasons of The Walking Dead incoming. So if you don’t
want to be…you know…spoiled, move along.
First of all, some background. Lori Grimes is the wife
of Rick Grimes and mother of Carl Grimes. She is, according to The Walking Dead
website, “the emotional center of the group.” Not a fighter by any means and
much more focused on keeping the home base together whenever Rick and the other
action folk are away doing action-y stuff.
Also, let me just say, the oddest thing about this
whole topic is, I’m pretty indifferent about her as a character. I don’t hate
her obviously, but it’s not like I defend her out of love of the character. It’s
just gotten so ridiculous that I feel it’s necessary.
Now, ever since the show has
been on, from as far back as when I wasn’t watching it and only seeing others
discuss it on message boards, the internet has not looked kindly on Lori. Around
the time of season 1, I was really only seeing internet memes and jokes about
her being a terrible mother, alluding to the fact that she never seemed to know
where Carl was. So, I’d just kind of chuckled and moved on. I wasn’t watching
it. What do I care.
I didn't realize she was Carl, Shane or Sophia |
Around the time season 2 had
ended, I was seeing more of a smattering and an increasing nastiness in this,
for all intents and purposes, hate speech.
“I hate Lori” became much
more common to see in discussions of the show.
Before this current season, I
started catching up. I cut my way through seasons 1 & 2 very quickly as I’m
prone to do with shows I’ve fallen behind on. As I got further into the series,
and the closer we got to season 3 starting, the discussions picked up again.
This time, I understood the context, but the vitriol I was seeing against this
character was bewildering. And it wasn’t just it one place, it was all over the
internet and even popped up on my Facebook newsfeed.
“She’s the worst.” “I hate
her stupid face” “Lori’s a dumb b****” “I hope they kill her off soon” “She’s a
terrible mother, wife and excuse for a woman.”
That’s right. All of those
are things I’ve actually read about this fictional character at one time or
another.
Now, let me get a little more
in depth for you so you understand the context. I’m going to list out some
actions/situations that she’s been involved in thus far that are referenced
regularly as “reasons Lori is a terrible person.”
-Lori was in a
sexual relationship with Shane while Rick was in a coma: What we know for a
fact is that both Shane and Lori believed Rick to be dead. Shane believed the
power was lost to Rick’s…er…life support stuff at the hospital. He told Lori
Rick was dead. I doubt this was malicious or some devious plot. He thought he
was dead.
So as of the first episode, it’s evident that Lori and Shane had been “together” for a little while at least.
So as of the first episode, it’s evident that Lori and Shane had been “together” for a little while at least.
Now some say they believe there was an affair going on
before Rick’s coma. I have no reason to believe that.
Some say she may have “gotten with” Shane as a means
of survival for her and Carl. I don’t really understand that one. Shane didn’t
seem to need a relationship with Lori to want to protect them.
My opinion, obviously the Grime’s marriage wasn’t
exactly stable. The conversation between Rick and Shane in the first episode
was evidence of that. We can’t really say how long it’d take someone to move on
after finding out their spouse had died. She may have made her peace with it while
he was in the coma. We just can’t know. We CAN know she moved on with Shane.
Most fans see this as “slutty” or cheating. “Slutty”
would be her sleeping with all the guys in the group. Cheating would be her
sleeping with Shane while believing Rick was alive.
She tried to keep this relationship a secret when Rick
got back at first. This probably wasn’t the smartest thing to do, but when IS
the right time to reveal this info to your back-from-the-“dead” husband during
a zombie apocalypse? How would you have handled that?
She’s still a human, with emotions and fears. Just
because it’s a TV show about zombies doesn’t mean she can be a cold, purely
logical machine to take actions you THINK she should take.
She was with Shane. Rick came back. She immediately
put a stop to it and eventually revealed it. I think that’s pretty important.
Is it a sad thing? Sure. Is it worth vicious hate? Not at all IMO.
-Lori is a
terrible mother: Regularly throughout seasons 1 & 2, Carl, a boy of
about 13, would sneak off on his own. This led Lori to have to ask “Where’s
Carl?” Apparently, according to internet logic, this equals “terrible mother”.
From what I understand, the idea here is that “Lori
doesn’t do much except laundry” so watching Carl’s every move should be 24/7.
If he sneaks off, it’s clearly her fault. I mean, when rebellious teens sneak
out and cause trouble, taggin’ up overpasses and staying out past curfew, it’s
their parents fault for not watching them like some kind of robot security
Hawk(patent pending)
Not Lori Grimes. |
While I give the “haters”(I cringed just typing that
word) a bit of leeway on the alleged “cheating scandal” as they may have had
experience in real life with it so they’re projecting onto TV characters, I don’t
give this reason any validity at all. First of all, it’s a zombie apocalypse with
constant moving, hiding and surviving. Applying the rules of our everyday life
to this roving lifestyle doesn’t work. She can’t be “vigilant mother” like she
would be pre-zombie. And you’ll notice Rick gets a free pass as father since he’s
“out doing stuff for the group”. “Hey Rick, remember how you’re also a father? Well
good news! You don’t have to be anymore!” Yes I “get it”. I understand the
point. I’m just making light of this stupid argument.
Let’s not forget Carl is about 13. He’s not some unaware 6 year old. He should know better than to steal people’s guns, sneak far away from camp and throw rocks at “walkers” for sport. His actions got Dale killed…and guess what? People blame Lori for that for not watching Carl.
Let’s not forget Carl is about 13. He’s not some unaware 6 year old. He should know better than to steal people’s guns, sneak far away from camp and throw rocks at “walkers” for sport. His actions got Dale killed…and guess what? People blame Lori for that for not watching Carl.
Remember up there where I said “First of all”? Well
here’s “second of all.” Second of all, the show runners, in an interview,
discussed their confusion over the “Lori is a bad mother” stuff. They said, and
I’m paraphrasing here, “What are we supposed to do, just lock him away? He
wouldn’t have any stories then.”
So we have Lori here to take the blame for Carl
getting screen time. She’s not the mother we deserve, but the one we need…something
something however that quote goes.
Do I give this argument any credence? I should think
it’s obvious that I don’t.
Lori made
Rick kill Shane/Her reaction to hearing that he did it: In season 2, Dale became very suspicious of Shane and
theorized that he had killed Otis to slow the zombies down. Which is of course
exactly what happened. It was clear that Shane was becoming more unhinged,
between his severed relationship with Lori, Rick taking over as leader, and his
cold methods being looked down on. It probably wasn’t exactly a stretch to
anyone except maybe Andrea, Carl, and Rick that Shane was capable of
sacrificing Otis. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe they ALL saw him as a bastion of
morality still. But the point is, Dale told Lori to be careful around Shane and
what he believed happened with Otis. I don’t doubt that Lori didn’t know what
Shane was capable of. I mean, the guy forced himself onto her at the CDC!(And
people still loved Shane by the way. Attempted rapist apparently better than
Lori) So in turn, Lori warned Rick to be careful and protect what’s his. At no
point did she ever say “Kill Shane” or even hint that he should. She WARNED
him. Not only that, Rick HAD to kill Shane anyway. Regardless of whether Lori
said anything because Shane was planning to kill him. Why people think she told
Rick to kill him, I haven’t the slightest.
The second part came when Rick told Lori what happened. After hearing the news that he and Carl had to put down Shane, she pulled away in what looked like resentment I suppose. So of course people say not only did she make Rick(an adult and a former sheriff’s deputy) kill Shane, but that she then got mad at him for it.
The second part came when Rick told Lori what happened. After hearing the news that he and Carl had to put down Shane, she pulled away in what looked like resentment I suppose. So of course people say not only did she make Rick(an adult and a former sheriff’s deputy) kill Shane, but that she then got mad at him for it.
I don’t buy that it was that simplistic. Again, she’s
a human with emotions. She at one time had feelings for Shane. Shane was also a
father figure to Carl while Rick was gone, and seemed to spend more time with
him I might add. So first she’s hit with the news that Shane was dead, but also
that her 13 year old boy had to put down zombie Shane. What people wanted was
for her to be a rock and a shoulder of support for Rick. But honestly, I don’t
know how emotionally realistic that is. Everyone takes bad news differently. I
think she went through multiple emotions. I’m sorry that she didn’t immediately
spring into action as super supportive wife. I’m sorry that she’s not
one-dimensional.
And of course if you’d let it play out, you’d see in this current season, Lori is very regretful of how she handled the situation, you know, like a real person might be.
And of course if you’d let it play out, you’d see in this current season, Lori is very regretful of how she handled the situation, you know, like a real person might be.
So, you know I understand why people my not like what
she did there, but is it worth the hate? I don’t think so.
Lori’s
lecture to Andrea about chipping in/suicide conversation:
In season 2, Andrea was being taught to shoot by Shane
somewhat secretly. I say somewhat because while it wasn’t a secret per se, it was
just not common knowledge. She eventually finds out she’s a fantastic shot, so
she begins keeping watch on top of the RV and in her seeming trigger happiness,
once mistook Daryl for a walker and shot at him grazing his head.
Also around this time, Beth, Herschel’s daughter, was
talking about “opting out” or killing herself to avoid becoming a zombie. This
is something Andrea had discussed in season 1 and Dale talked her out of it.
I say all that as just background and setup.
Both in the same episode, Lori confronts Andrea about
helping out more with the laundry and cooking and spending less time “working
on her tan on top of the RV”. Honestly…I’ve HONESTLY heard people reference
this conversation as Lori believing women should be in the kitchen “cookin’ and
cleanin’” while the menfolk go out. I’d thought I’d heard it all on this topic
until I heard this ridiculousness. I would say it’s not worth countering, but
there are people who actually think buy into this argument so I must. But
really, there’s not much to say except at no point is it ever hinted at or
alluded to that Lori believes that. Never. All I got out of that conversation was that
Lori didn’t seem to think Andrea was pulling her weight. A.) Lori didn’t know
Andrea could kind of shoot. B.) She didn’t tell her to stop taking her turn at
watch.
They say “Who’s Lori to talk? She doesn’t seem to do
anything.” You know, accept most of the
laundry, cooking, keeping everyone emotionally stable and BEING more
emotionally stable than others in the group, and keeping the group in line
under Rick in season 1. For someone who doesn’t do anything, everyone sure
comes to her a lot.
The second
part, the suicide conversation, happened around the same time. As mentioned,
Beth was under suicide watch…kind of. Andrea believed she should have the right
to die as she sees fit. Lori wanted to prevent her from killing herself.
It seems people
had a problem with Lori intervening. I don’t really want to get TOO into it
because people have different views on suicide. But in the context of the show,
no one seemed to hate Dale for stopping Andrea’s suicide. If he hadn’t, there’d
be no Andrea. Honestly, I just think this is a combination of their hate of
Lori so they disagree with whatever she says, and an indifference to Beth. If
it was a fan favorite character in either position, I bet you they wouldn’t
hate them for doing the same thing Lori did. It’s contradiction at it’s finest.
I’m not going
to get deep into suicide though. I mean, my own personal views are probably
what put me on Lori’s side on this one, but other than saying that, I won’t go
into it.
Lori drove
off to find Rick by herself and crashed the car: I don’t really have much to say here. It was a stupid
decision on her part and it just seemed like a plot device anyway. She never
went off by herself any other time Rick was gone, so why start then?
So this one I can consider legitimate. Stupid decision?
Of course. Any stupider than anyone else’s? Nope, and definitely not worth
putting her into a “hate category”(patent pending) above anyone else. Don’t
forget, stupid Carl and psycho/near-rapist Shane still existed at this point
and people hated them less…..
Look out everyone, Lori's being obnoxious again! |
Lori is
obnoxious: Um….what?! No…just no.
Lori hid her
pregnancy: Like her former
relationship with Shane, Lori found out she was pregnant and hid it from Rick .
I get this one in a way. That’s a big thing to hide. But I understand the fear.
She didn’t know whose baby it was. She didn’t want to bring a baby into that
world. A pregnant woman trying to survive the zombie outbreak? What would her
chances be, really? Are those valid reasons to hide it? Not really.
She had Glenn bring her some “kill the baby” pills and
struggled internally over whether to take them. She eventually threw them up.
Rick saw the package and ran to stop her. That’s when he found out.
I won’t go much more into that. You either accept that
as a reason to hate her or you don’t.
Though some people say she fed Shane's obsession by telling him she wasn't sure whose baby it was and complimenting him. I wouldn't quite go that far unless you're looking for reasons to hate her and I think people do. Given...it was probably stupid of her to even open communication with Shane after the rape attempt. Not telling anyone is one thing to keep chaos from breaking out, but to keep talking to him only makes him think he didn't do anything wrong. But it's okay because he's dead now.
This one's just because...well...look at her. |
So those are the basic arguments I hear on the
internet but stated in a much more angry way for some reason. Some are utterly
ridiculous. Some are somewhat legitimate reasons to either dislike her at the
time or think it was a stupid move. But honestly, none of them, to me, are
valid reasons for the insanely vicious hate she gets and I don’t think I’ll
ever quite be able to get to that point these angry people are at. I mean, good
Lord, I actually read a comment in which someone said they believed that she
doesn’t deserve forgiveness for anything she’s done. Like…at all. That’s just
bizarre to me. I don’t like NOT understanding certain things which is why I
think this gets under my skin so much. I like to see validity or at least a
reasonable argument for an opinion. Saying “She’s dumb and I hate her” doesn’t
work for me. Giving a mixed bag makes me go insane and blog about it. Saying “Bieber
sucks” makes me ask “Why do you think that?” It can’t be his singing because he
can sing.
Look internet, I’m not saying you HAVE to like Lori
Grimes, or that you can’t dislike her. Just give me reasonable answers when I
ask. Don’t carry your love for Shane and bitterness that his head got shot up
right good and stomach region got stabbed around and take out your anger on
Lori.
Just…let it go….take a deep breath…and let it all go…..
Once you clear your head of all meme influences and
the bias of a one-time, overblown event in the grand scheme of this fictional
character’s life in a zombie apocalypse, you’ll see things my way.
1 comment:
No way! I love her!
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